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This has been briefly mentioned and discussed in a post on another thread. However, I wanted to put it here in its own thread so it doesn't get lost.

I know its not easy to create, but it would be great if Edublogs would go the way of Wordpress.com and set up a feature so that teachers could register students to post/comment on her blog without having to have students create their own blogs.

I understand that there is the option of turning off the requirement that people must be registered in order to comment. But you have to realize that some school districts are still very weary of blogs and this is a requirement in their policy - that there is some security measure in place where only registered users can comment.

This protects not only the kids from outside weirdos...but it also is a stop-gap measure that allows the teacher to see who made an inappropriate post or comment, if one is made.

I attempted to go Wordpress.com to see if their new system would work for our school district but alas it won't. They require email addresses as opposed to user names to register new users. Since our students don't have email addresses, that won't work at all.

(sigh)

So James, I know you are busy. But if you could put this one in the que, a lot of us would be ever so greatful.

Thanks for all you do!!
Kary

Answers from fellow members and edublogs support

As a network administrator for a PK-12 school district, I can echo what Kary said. We have major responsibilities to ensure the safety of our students, as well as protecting them from viewing/participating in inappropriate content.
Unfortunately, funding problems prevent some districts from being able to provide student email accounts (this has been one of our challenges). It seems that other projects are always deemed more important, so student email accounts get bumped far enough down the list that they cannot be funded for that year (and the cycle continues).
We have seen how students and teachers could greatly benefit from the use of blogs. Our district made the decision to block all known blogging sites because students were using them to "slam" other students to the point that they felt they could no longer attend school (or even leave their home). We unblocked the Edublogs site for a pilot program, and feel that it offers a lot of what we need.
If Kary's request could be granted, it would benefit at least our district (32,000 students), and could probably benefit many many more across the Internet.

This is already a wonderful resource, so we greatly appreciate all of the time and efforts you put into it!
Kim

Yep, hear you loud and clear... at the moment I'm trying to get some tech support in to help me achieve stuff exactly like this. Can't promise anything in the too near future though :(

Thanks for raising and clarifying the issue.

Don't forget WordPress itself has recently added that capability for their MU blogs. They should have something you could import easily (says me without having tried it.)

Yes...I know. The problem is you must have an email address in order to register a new user. Our students do not have email addresses. Therefore its literally impossible for a teacher in my district to use that service with her students.

Wow, silly me. This issue just got more complicated because I assumed that a student on Learnerblogs could register to post comments on the teacher's Edublogs blog.

I tried...no go. So I guess ultimately the only way to fix this problem is for the teacher to set up a Learnerblogs account for herself and set up one for each of her students (remember, my students don't have email addresses). Then each student has a blog and she can just decide if she wants them to actually use their own blog...or is it easier and better for her to have them just comment/post on the one main blog (essentially abandoning all the student learnerblogs).

There's got to be another way. I wish Wordpress.com had a way to register a user to one's blog without having to have that pesky email address. Shoot.

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For anyone else in the same quandry, there IS actually another solution. And it may in fact be the best one.

• Teacher sets up a blog on Edublogs - turn pingbacks on
• Students set up blogs on Learnerblogs - turn pingbacks on ( I guess the teacher will have to do this if the students don't have email addresses)
• Students register each other on their own blogs
• Teacher subscribes to her student's blogs via the RSS feed for both posts and comments.
• In terms of pingback: when a teacher posts an assignment, the students "answer" the assignment in their own blog...making certain that they reference the teacher's blog URL in their own post. Her blog's comment area is filled with her student's comments..essentially creating remote commenting.
• Students can do the same for each other's blogs or post comments directly onto each others' blogs.
• In terms of RSS subscriptions: if the teacher subscribes to the students' blogs, she'll be notified via the aggregator whenever a post or comment has been made. The posts come to her as opposed for her having to always go to the multiple blogs.

How do you turn use pingbacks??
http://landrumms.edublogs.org/2006/05/09/blogging-workshop-pingbacks/

One last thought, using an online personal portal like http://www.suprglu.com is another way for everyone in the class to see what everyone is doing and posting in regards to the main blog and all the student blogs.

It seems complicated, but at least in theory, once its all set-up, I think it actually might be pretty cool and fairly easy to maintain.

I have several requests to make it easier to setup and use class blogs by a teacher:
(1) Is there any news on the feature of being able to add students as members to a class blog without having to actually create a blog for them?? (like they do over at WP.com)

(2) Any plans for figuring out a way for a teacher to mass-register her entire class as members of a classroom blog...(the students wouldn't have their own blogs, just post on the classroom blog). This would solve the major problem of students needed emails (which many districts don't allow) AND solving the problem of a teacher having to go in, one at a time, and creating 30-60+ blogs for each of her students.

(3) There is a WP plugin that allows the adminstrator make the blog totally private...no one can even view the blog unless they are a member and logged in.This would go a LONG way to easing the concerns of district superintendents, parents and boards (of education).

There are many people in my district who want to blog...but I am having a really hard time finding a platform that will be approved by the "powers that be."

Any help you can give towards these would be GREATLY appreciated!!

Thank,
Kary

The pingback stuff is great, but my students are too young to manage that at this time of the year.

I can echo the issue with no student e-mails. I set up a class blog/individual blogs through learnerblogs.org and had about 1/2 of my class registered before the update using my e-mail address. When I went back today to finish registering the remainder, it will no longer let me use my e-mail address (already in use) and I cannot add users to the community because it is requiring an e-mail address to do that as well. My account on edublogs does not seem to have that same restriction - why would this be different with the two? Is it a setting someplace that I need to change? I've turned everything on and off at least twice in an attempt to see if I inadvertently switched something. Help!

I just found I have the same issue. I was using MY email account to set it up, but I no longer can add users in LearnerBlog, and I was only half done with the registering.

Can I do the adding students with my email on Edublog?

I did - all my students are now on edublog, all using my e-mail address.

when did you set up their accounts? This is a recent change - within the past month or so.

klquinn - I visited your blog. The background you have makes it impossible to read your blog.

Also - I see you have all your students as categories. Did you create accounts for them without making blogs for them?

I started setting up my blog on learnerblogs around the first week of September. I got 1/2 my class on before it changed and would no longer let me use my e-mail address to register the remainder of my students. After a couple of frustrating weeks waiting for things to change back, I just switched all my kids to edublogs instead, and haven't been back to learnerblogs.

I am quite aware of the background issue - it just cropped up this afternoon. When the page loads, this error message comes up in the activity window. http://klquinn.edublogs.org/wp-content/themes/anthurium/images/menu.gif - not found. So apparently a gif file - the solid color that goes behind the text - has disappeared. When I change themes, they aren't fully loading either, so something must be up.

I created blogs for each of my students, but they are not currently using their individual blogs - I wanted them to start with the class blog first until they are comfortable with logging in and posting on their own. I put them in categories simply so I can sort their posts quickly and easy for assessment purposes.

Thanks for your reply. One more question about the kids in categories - did you add them to your blog as authors (or contributors)? I have all my kids registered with their own blogs this year, but I'm trying to figure out what I will do for next year.

Bummer about the theme. I hope it gets resolved soon.

Today the theme is back as usual, so who knows what was up.
My students are registered as contributors on my blog. All their comments and posts must come to me to be checked before I allow them to go through, and no outside persons can comment on the blog.

OK thanks for your reply. I have Middle Schoolers and I really do like them to have their own blogs.

I have third graders, so I prefer them not to have their own blogs - at least not yet!

My 7th graders have the blogs, but I am not letting them use them right now. They will only be able to use mine, where I can approve the comments.

OK, HELP. Now they have done the same thing with this blog that Learnerblogs.org did to me. They have made it so I can't enroll any students, or any teachers from my school.

Yep - I noticed the same thing. I have my whole class enrolled, so I'm OK, but if I get any new students, I'm going to have to create a hotmail or yahoo account for each new student I get in order to register them.

You should be able to add teachers if they have e-mail accounts. You just have to sign them up/create an account for them first.

Sorry - eager trigger finger hitting post....

To finish what I was saying...You just have to sign them up/create an account for them first. Then again, you might not have to even do that - it might just send the invitation their way if you put in their e-mail - I haven't had any reason to try this out yet as most teachers in my building even know what a blog is.

Has anyone tried the earlier trick of spoofing email addresses to add users and/or commenters?

I couldn't get that to work no matter what I tried - and try I did since I just got a new student yesterday, thus I needed to add him as a contributor to our class blog.

If you have a gmail account this can be easily resolved by generating and assigning a separate email address for each student. To do this, just add a + sign and the students first name after your gmail address. (youraddress+student1@gmail.com) Each student’s username and password will be emailed to you.
See http://mhetherington.net/blogs/?p=8 for more info

You could always search your cookies for "learnerblog" or "edublog" and remove those cookies.

Then you can register a new blog using your email address.

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